alaska airlines flight 261 cockpit voice recorder

THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. "The Bright Shining Lie of Flight 261." 4: Slightly more than one minute before the end of the recording, a loud noise can be heard on the recording and the airplane appears to go out of control. Terrifying 31 MinutesTodays hearing focused on the terrifying last minutes of Flight 261 and pilots efforts to save the lives of their passengers. I believe he's talking about this---1550:25 CAM-2 oh.1550:25 CAM-1 ---switch that's on the * that's on the pedestal.1550:27 CAM-2 yea okay.1550:31 CAM-1 do you see anything back there?1550:32 CAM [Sound of click]1550:33 CAM-2 uh there's *.1550:40 SEA-MX and two sixty one, maintenance.1550:42.0 RDO-1 go ahead maintenance two six one.1550:44 SEA-MX understand you're requesting uh diversion to L A for this uh discrepancy is there a specific reason you prefer L A over San Francisco?1550:45 MZT Alaska two sixty one radar service terminated contact uh Los Angeles center frequency one one nine decimal ninety five good day.1550:54.4 RDO-1 well a lotta times its windy and rainy and wet in San Francisco and uh, it seemed to me that a dry runway where the wind is usually right down the runway seemed a littlemore reasonable.1550:55.0 RDO-2 one one nine ninety five Alaska two sixty one.1551:01.2 RDO-2 say again the frequency one one nine point eh ninety five?1551:05 MZT affirm one one nine decimal ninety five.1551:09.3 RDO-2 roger.1551:09.9 SEA-MX ok and uh is this added fuel that you're gonna have in LA gonna be a complication or an advantage?1551:18.1 RDO-1 well the way I'm reading it uh heavier airplanes land faster right now I got fifteen five on board, I'm thinking to land with about twelve which is still uh an hour and forty minutes uh and those are the numbers I'm running up here.1551:20.6 RDO-2 L A Alaska two sixty one three one zero.1551:36 SEA-MX ok uh two sixty one standby for dispatch.1551:38 RDO-2 Los Angeles Alaska two sixty one three one zero.1551:40 RDO-1 OK the other thing you gotta know is that they're talking about holding and delays in San Francisco um for your maintenance facil- eh you know planning uh it uh L Aseemed like a smarter move from airworthy move.1551:42 LAX-CTR1 Alaska two sixty one L A center roger.1551:50 RDO-2 * there's two people on the frequency I'm sorry Alaska two sixty one I didn't hear your response.1551:58 LAX-CTR1 Alaska two six one squawk two zero one zero.1552:01 RDO-2 two zero one zero Alaska two sixty one.1552:02 SEA-DIS two sixty one dispatch uh current San Francisco weather one eight zero at six, nine miles, few at fifteen hundred broken twenty eight hundred overcast thirty four hundred uh if uh you want to land at L A of course for safety reasons we will do that uh wu we'll uh tell you though that if we land in LA uh we'll be looking at probably an hour to an hour and a half we have a major flow program going right now. two eight and we'd be landing on---1601:30 CAM-2 and they are using one nine?1601:33 CAM-1 you know I don't know I wrote it down there the winds were one eighty at six I don't know.1601:49 CAM-2 I don't know.1601:49 CAM-1 I don't care you know what? The cockpit voice recorder from the downed Alaska Airlines Flight 261 is held by the robotic arm of the remotely piloted vehicle SCORPIO on the deck of the MV Kellie Chouest off the coast of Ventura County, Calif., on Feb. 2, 2000. The Associated Press. read back all runway hold short instructions. Alaska Airlines Flight 261: Cockpit Voice Recorder Reveals Crew Fighting Problem With Stabilizer Trim; Relatives Mourn Loss of Victims Aired February 3, 2000 - 8:01 p.m. The crew could manually control the airplane with the control wheels in their hands. "Whatever we did is no good," Tansky told Thompson. 26 May 2000 (p. B1). ok lets head for L A.1619:21.1 CAM [sound of faint thump]1619:24 CAM-2 you feel that?1619:25 CAM-1 yea.1619:29 CAM-1 ok gimme sl--- see, this is a bitch.1619:31 CAM-2 is it?1619:31 CAM-1 yea.1619:32.8 CAM [sound of two clicks similar to slat/flap handle movement]1619:36 CAM-? DAVIS: The two families, the Clemetsons (ph) and the Pearsons, close friends, were on the flight with their six children: Blake, Cori (ph), Miles, Spencer, Rachel and Grace. Associated Press. ValuJet Airlines Flight 592 was a regularly scheduled flight from Miami International Airport to Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport.On May 11, 1996, the ValuJet Airlines McDonnell Douglas DC-9 operating the route crashed into the Everglades about 10 minutes after taking off from Miami as a result of a fire in the cargo compartment caused by mislabeled and improperly stored . His determined words, 19 seconds before hitting the water off Los Angeles, were captured on the cockpit voice recorder. Flight 261 was operating as a scheduled international passenger flight under the provisions of 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 121 from Lic Gustavo Diaz Ordaz International Airport, Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, to Seattle-Tacoma International Airport, Seattle, Washington, with an intermediate stop planned at San Francisco International Airport, San Francisco, California. Database; Description; Contact Search the site. Thompson tells Tansky that they are in worse shape now than before, believing the stabilizer has come to rest at its full nose-down angle. JOHN HAMMERSCHMIDT, NTSB: Well, the next stage in terms of the U.S. Navy's work at the accident site is to begin the process of the detailed mapping of the wreckage area and that will begin at some point soon. -- 4:11:43 -- First Officer William Tansky: Whatever we did, it's no good, don't do that again. The plane then began its last plunge at 4:19 p.m. "Mayday," Tansky said. DAVIS: The mother of Blake and Cori is also a close friend. NPR's Mary Ann Akers reports from the crash investigation headquarters. "This is an extremely important investigation for all of us. Chawkins, Steve. - "Observation No. Most wore pins with photos of those who were killed. Stephan Lanfermeijer. "I'd like to do that out here over the bay if I may," Thompson says. Accident; Date: January 31, 2000 () Summary: Loss of control caused by Jackscrew failure due to improper maintenance. duh.1606:47 CAM-2 so our actually our landing speed will be one forty eight plus some additive right?1607:06 CAM-1 lets guess lets guess one twelve.1607:10 CAM-2 ok.1607:10 CAM-1 one forty six plus I get a minus two, worst case twenty four knots fifty sixty seventy *.1607:33 LAX-OPS Alaska two sixty one from operations can you give us your tail number?1607:38 RDO-1 uh two sixty one, it was ship number nine six three.1607:43 LAX-OPS copy that two uh your aircraft number is nine six three.1607:47 RDO-1 affirmative thank you.1607:51 LAX-MX-1 and two sixty one maintenance.1607:53 RDO-1 two sixty one go.1607:54 LAX-MX-1 yea are you guys with the uh, horizontal situation?1607:58 RDO-1 affirmative.1607:59 LAX-MX-1 yea did you try the suitcase handles and the pickle switches right?1608:03 RDO-1 yea we tried everything together, uh.1608:08 RDO-1 we've run just about everything if you've got any hidden circuit breakers we'd love to know about 'em.1608:14 LAX-MX-1 I'm off I'll look at the uh circuit breaker uh guide just as a double check and um yea I just wanted to know if you tried the pickle switches and the suitcase handles to see if it was movin in with any of the uh other switches other than the uh suitcase handles alone or nothing.1608:29.9 RDO-1 yea we tried just about every iteration.1608:32 LAX-MX-1 and alternate's inop too huh?1608:35.1 RDO-1 yup its just it appears to be jammed the uh the whole thing, it spikes out when we use the primary, we get AC load that tells me the motor's tryin to run but the brake won't move it. The two pilots trade instructions for working the controls but the effort is in vain as the plane takes a final dive from 18,000 feet. If you want to climb, it stabilizes it so it takes the pressure off of the control wheel and keeps it in that particular mode of flight. The high school senior was scheduled to be on Flight 261. The National Transportation Safety Board says an initial audition of the cockpit voice recorder revealed that as the pilots struggled to control stabilizer problems, the jet turned upside down . Snopes and the Snopes.com logo are registered service marks of Snopes.com. Information on the Alaska Airlines Flight 261 cockpit voice recorder as provided by John Hammerschmidt, a member of the National Transportation Safety Board: - "Observation No. . Menu. cockpit voice recorder (CVR) transcript about 1549,6 which suggests . The two pilots trade instructions for working the controlsbut the effort is in vain as the plane takes a final dive from18,000 feet. The dispatcher relented when Thompson told him they had a serious problem. No passenger-led prayer appears on the tape. ", - "Observation No. From Alaska Airlines Flight 261. I don't anticipate any big problems once we get a couple of subsystems on the line.''. The National Transportation Safety Board says an initial audition of the cockpit voice recorder revealed that as the pilots struggled to control stabilizer problems, the jet turned upside down. THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. FOWLER: They will be greatly missed and never forgotten. We have a lot of pictures that we found. . The crash occurred on Jan. 31 as the crew tried an emergency landing at Los Angeles International Airport. Mr. Tansky asked. Also today, a Coast Guard helicopter will scatter 88 roses into the ocean, one for each victim. -- 4:20:25 -- Thompson: Are we flyin'? Real free hookup sites that work. He covers breaking news, crime, courts and aviation. we are comin in to see you and I've misplaced the paperwork here.1603:23 CAM-2 there it is.1603:35 CAM-1 I can't read your writing can you read her the uh zero fuel weight---1603:40 CAM-2 yea.1603:41 CAM-1 ---and all those numbers and CG.1603:43 LAX-OPS L A operations from two six to two six one.1603:48 CAM-2 I got it.1603:48.5 RDO-2 uhhh two sixty one do you need our uh, our numbers?1603:52 LAX-OPS yea we just wanna advise that we do not have landing rights as yet.1603:56 RDO-2 here's our numbers we had uh ten in first class, seventy in coach, zero fuel weight one zero two one one zero point one fuel on board thirty four point niner take off weight onethirty six five one one point eight, CG eleven point eight.1604:19 LAX-OPS OK I got ten and seventy Z fuel weight one zero two one one zero point one, fuel on board thirty four decimal nine take off weight five one one decimal eight and a CG ofeleven decimal eight.1604:32 RDO-2 yea uh take off one three six five one one point eight and uh CG one one point eight. All rights reserved. But if the pilots believed they could not land safely, they never said so. Claim: The cockpit recorder from Alaska Airlines Flight 261 revealed a pastor's wife led passengers in prayer just before the plane dived into the Pacific Ocean. A later meeting would determine the probable cause of the crash. FOWLER: I miss them very much. They lost several friends in the crash, but came frighteningly close to losing a child. This site contains various Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR or Black Box) transcripts of aviation accidents and incidents. Alaska Airlines Flight 261; N963AS, the Alaska Airlines MD-83 aircraft involved in the accident seen in 1992. Brunette beauty maddy oreilly wants to be a model when she gets out. "My daughter's an activist, and she would have been here for me," Sanchez said. Site: Pacific Ocean near Anacapa Island, . "I just felt like all the technicians here needed to be reminded that there are human beings involved," said Earlene Shaw, 65, of Olympia, Wash., whose husband, Don Shaw, 63, died on Flight 261. It was really tough there for a while. After the crew heard a "big bang" from the back of the plane, Thompson told a flight attendant, "I need you, everybody strapped in, dear.". Just before the final dive into the Pacific Ocean, she can be heard leading the sinner's prayer for salvation. 14 August 2013 - UPS 1354. Dec. 13, 2000 -- A transcript of the cockpit voice recorder of doomed Alaska Airlines Flight261 shows that the pilots struggled to get the plane upright before it crashed into the Pacific Ocean last January. JIM MORET, CNN ANCHOR: Wolf, investigators say an initial check of the plane's cockpit voice recorder reveals the crew struggling to keep the MD-83 flying. At 4:09 p.m, the cockpit voice recorder caught the sound of two thumps, indicating the stabilizer was moving. 24/7 coverage of breaking news and live events. They were bused from Los Angeles to a private memorial service on the beach where the flight -- near where the flight went down. Transcript Tells of Alaska Airlines Pilots' Efforts Before Crash, https://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/14/us/transcript-tells-of-alaska-airlines-pilots-efforts-before-crash.html. The pilots make two attempts to extend the slats and flaps to slow the plane for landing but with under two minutes of the recording left, a faint thump is followed by a loud noise. Twelve minutes before the crash, the situation rapidly turns into a crisis as the stabilizer goes into a full-nose down position after the captain refers to moving a switch. Her voice faltered when she explained why she chose to attend the hearing. ET THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. She is now too distraught to talk. Investigators will be anxious to compare what they see there with information gained from an American Airlines MD-80 that made an emergency landing at Phoenix, Arizona after experiencing a trim control problem in that aircraft -- Jim. actually.1617:46 CAM-2 he wants us to maintain seventeen.1617:51 CAM-1 ok I need help with this here.1617:52 CAM-1 slats ext lets---1617:54 CAM-2 ok slats---1617:54 CAM-1 gimme slats extend.1617:55 CAM-2 got it.1617:56.6 CAM [sound similar to slat/flap handle movement]1617:58 CAM-1 I'm test flyin now---1617:59 CAM-2 how does it feel?1618:00 CAM-1 it's wantin to pitch over more on you.1618:02 CAM-2 really?1618:03 CAM-1 yea.1618:04 CAM-2 try flaps? fifteen, eleven?1618:05 CAM-1 ahh lets go to eleven.1618:07.3 CAM [sound similar to slat/flap handle movement]1618:09 CAM-2 ok get some power on.1618:10 CAM-1 I'm at two hundred and fifty knots, so I'm lookin.1618:17 CAM-2 real hard?1618:17 CAM-1 no actually its pretty stable right here see but we got to get down to a hundred an eighty.1618:26 CAM-1 OK bring bring the flaps and slats back up for me.1618:32 CAM-2 slats too?1618:33 CAM-1 yea.1618:36.8 CAM [sound similar to slat/flap handle movement]1618:37 CAM-2 that gives us twelve thousand pounds of fuel, don't over boost them.1618:47 CAM-1 what I'm what I wanna do1618:48 CAM [sound similar to slat/flap handle movement]1618:49 CAM-1 is get the nose up and then let the nose fall through andsee if we can stab it when it's unloaded.1618:54 CAWS [sound of chime] Altitude (repeats for approximately 34 seconds)1618:56 CAM-2 you mean use this again? Get the latest DOD News products delivered to your inbox. The difference is in where it jammed and that is one of the things that they will be looking at, where it jammed and why it jammed -- Jim. That would take air pressure off the tail and make it easier, they thought, to adjust. On August 16, 1987 a McDonnell Douglas MD-82, operating as Northwest Airlines Flight 255, crashed shortly after takeoff from Detroit Metropolitan Airport, about 8:46 pm EDT (00:46 UTC August 17), resulting in the deaths of all six crew members and 148 of the 149 passengers, along with two people on the ground. Aviation officials have released more details about the final moments of Alaska Airlines Flight 261, which crashed Monday off the coast of California. 31 January 2000 - Alaska Airlines 261. The cockpit voice recorder, more commonly called a black box, was located and brought aboard the ship following an 84-minute search by SCORPIO, a tethered unmanned work vehicle from the Navy's Deep Submergence Unit Unmanned Vehicle Detachment. 17 April 2018 - Southwest 1380. which had departed from Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, crashed 10 minutes after the crew thought it had regained control of a jammed horizontal stabilizer. NTSB investigators have promised to pursue every lead to determine a cause of the crash, saying they will wait until the four-day hearing is finished and have time to study the information gathered to reach a conclusion. we're pretty busy up hereworkin this situation I don't anticipate any big problems once we get a couple of sub systems on the line. Id like to do that out here over the bayif I may, Thompson says. wind two three zero at eight. 2000 Voice unidentifiedMZT Radio transmission from Mazetlan CenterLAX CTR1 Radio transmission from the Los Angeles Air Route Traffic Control Center sector 30 controllerLAX CTR2 Radio transmission from the Los Angeles Air Route Traffic Control Center sector 25 controllerLAX-MX Radio transmission from Alaska Airlines Maintenance facility in Los AngelesLAX-OPS Radio transmission from Alaska Airlines Operations facility in Los AngelesSEA-DIS Radio transmission from Alaska Airlines Dispatch facility in SeattleSEA-MX Radio transmission from Alaska Airlines maintenance facility in Seattle-1 First voice-2 Second voiceATIS Radio transmission from Los Angeles airport Automated Terminal Information SystemCAWS Mechanical voice or sound source from the Central Aural Warning System, as heard on the Cockpit Area Microphone channel. ", - "Observation No. -- 4:20:04 -- Thompson (probably referring to the control stick): Push, push, push, push. 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"Ah here we go," Thompson says just at the end of the recording. I need to get down about ten, change my configuration, make sure I can control the jet and I'd like to do that out here over the bay if I may.1616:07 LAX-CTR2 ok Alaska two sixty one roger that standby here.1616:11 CAM-2 lets do it at this altitude instead---1616:11 CAM-1 what?1616:12 CAM-2 ---of goin to ten lets do it at this altitude.1616:14 CAM-1 cause the airflow's that much difference down at ten this air's thin enough that that you know what I'm sayin?1616:20 CAM-2 yea uh I'll tell em to uh---1616:22 CAM-1 I just made a PA to everyone to get everybody---1616:24 CAM-2 ok.1616:26 CAM-1 ---down you might call the flight attendants.1616:27 CAM [sound similar to cockpit door operating]1616:32 CAM-3 I was just comin up this way.1616:32 LAX-CTR2 Alaska two sixty one fly a heading of two eight zero and descend and maintain one seven thousand.1616:34 CAM-2 uhh.1616:36 CAM [sound similar to cockpit door operating]1616:39.0 RDO-1 two eight zero and one seven seventeen thousand Alaska two sixty one.

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